Scout’s Tips: Overbooked Flights

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Recently I was happy to share the new Passenger’s Bill of Rights. Part of those regulations by the DOT was supposed to reduce over booking and involuntary bumping. Ironically right after that post one of our readers was faced with that situation on their flight. Here’s that comment:

Scout, I really appreciate your tips!  We’ve just experienced the “overbooking” situation and now I’m on a quest to see what I can do to prevent it in the future.  We don’t fly much and had little experience, so it was quite a shock to learn we “may” get bumpted off our flight, even though it was paid for 8 months ago.  The next flight out wasn’t for another 2 days!!  Oh, my husband was livid.  Even when using Expedia, (which I think helped a little because phone calls were made) I have learned there is no guarentee.  Fortunately we made the flight, but one of us had steam coming out his ears for a long time after.  There is much I need to learn in this area.  One thing I know, I’ll not be using that airline again!!  Do you have any other tips for newbies like us??

As a result We made some calls and sent some emails and this was what we were able to find out:

Delta Airlines said they try very hard not to bump anyone who has checked in and has their reservation in advance. However, they admit that they do over book flights. They have found that on most flights there will be “no-shows”, passengers with confirmed reservations who either change their travel plans or for some other reason decide not to take the flight and often neglect to notify the airline. In order to keep costs contained it is in the best interest of the airline and the traveling customer to have these seats filled.

The Delta representative said they always ask for volunteers and actually have  a Bid System in place for when they are overbooked. They don’t know if a flight will be overbooked untill everyone has checked in. At that time the last people to check in are the ones targeted to be bumped if there are no volunteers to give up their seats.

Just another good reason besides the possible hassles and delays at security to arrive early.

American Airlines , probably in accordance with the new  Passenger Bill of Rights, actually has their  over booking policy disclosed on their website. You do have to dig a little to find it but it is there and it is quite similar to Delta’s policy.

Flights with Oversales

American Airlines and American Eagle, like most airlines, overbook flights. We do this because historical information shows that some people do not cancel their reservations when they change their travel plans. Overbooking is done in the best interest of both customers and the airline. Without the revenue produced by filling seats that would otherwise go empty, every airline would have to compensate by raising fares. And just as important, selling our seats in this manner allows us to say “yes” rather than “no” a lot more often when customers call for a seat on the flight of their choice. Just because a flight is overbooked, it does not necessarily mean that customers with reservations will not be accommodated on their flight. The overwhelming majority of overbooked flights depart with all customers who have reservations and are present for departure.

If at departure time more customers with confirmed reservations are present than there are seats available, gate agents will first ask for volunteers who are willing to give up their seats in exchange for compensation and a confirmed seat on a later flight. On extremely rare occasions, a customer may be denied boarding on an involuntary basis, if a sufficient number of volunteers are not obtained. In such events, we will usually deny boarding based upon check-in time, but we may also consider factors such as severe hardships, fare paid, and status within the AAdvantage program. With few exceptions, persons denied boarding involuntarily are entitled to compensation under federal law.

Additional information concerning our overbooking policies can be found in our conditions of carriage. Upon request, reservations representatives or airport agents will advise you if your flight is overbooked at the time your reservation is made or during airport check-in. Bear in mind that, as stated above, most overbooked flights do in fact have sufficient seats to accommodate all customers who are present for departure.

Continental Airlines was the hardest to get information about. Thier website does not supply a contact # for customer service but rather has a “virtual assistant”. You plug-in a question and the “assistant” responds. When we plugged in Over Booked flight policy we were supplied a link to Continental Inc, Contract of Carriage. We waded through 23 pages of “legalese” before we found the information we were looking for under the obscure Heading of “Denied Boarding Compensation”

I am taking the liberty of reprinting it here: As you can see, compared to Delta and America, Continental has cloaked their policy in tons of hard to follow paragraphs instead of just straight forward information. We were not amused.  On the good side, if you do take the time to wade through the mess, it does spell out the pecking order for bumping and compensation.

 

ULE 25 DENIED BOARDING COMPENSATION

A) Denied Boarding (U.S.A. Flight Origin) – When there is an Oversold CO flight that originates in the U.S.A., the following provisions apply:

1) Request for Volunteers

      1. CO will request Passengers who are willing to relinquish their confirmed reserved space in exchange for compensation in an amount determined by CO. If a Passenger is asked to volunteer, CO will not later deny boarding to that Passenger involuntarily unless that Passenger was informed at the time he was asked to volunteer that there was a possibility of being denied boarding involuntarily and of the amount of compensation to which he/she would have been entitled in that event. The request for volunteers and the selection of such person to be denied space will be in a manner determined solely by CO.
      2. In exchange for voluntarily relinquishing confirmed reserved space on CO, CO may, at its option compensate the Passenger with credit valid for transportation on CO in lieu of monetary compensation. The transportation credit will be valid only for travel on CO or designated Codeshare partners for one year from the date of issue and will have no refund value.
      3. 2) Boarding Priorities – If a flight is Oversold, no one may be denied boarding against his/her will until CO or other carrier personnel first ask for volunteers who will give up their reservations willingly in exchange for compensation as determined by CO. If there are not enough volunteers, other Passengers may be denied boarding involuntarily in accordance with CO’s boarding priority:
      4. Passengers who are Qualified Individuals with Disabilities, unaccompanied minors under the age of 12 years, or minors between the ages of 12 and 17 who use the unaccompanied minor service, will be the last to be involuntarily denied boarding if it is determined by CO that such denial would constitute a hardship.
      5. ngers who qualify for Presidential Platinum Elite status, as determined by CO in accordance with CO’s OnePass Program Rules (see www.continental.com for details) will be prioritized for boarding over all other Passengers, excepting circumstances described in 2) a) above.
      6. Passengers who hold a seat assignment will be prioritized for boarding over passengers without a seat assignment, regardless of check-in order.
      7. The priority of all other Passengers will be determined in the order in which they present themselves for check-in in accordance with CO’s rules.
      8. 3) Transportation for Passengers Denied Boarding – When CO is unable to provide previously confirmed space due to an Oversold flight, CO will provide transportation to such Passengers who have been denied boarding whether voluntarily or involuntarily in accordance with the provisions below.
      9. CO will transport the Passenger on its own flight to the Destination without Stopover on its next flight on which space is available at no additional cost to the Passenger, regardless of class of service.

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  • If space is available on another Carrier’s flight regardless of class of service, such flights may be used upon Passenger’s request and at no additional cost to the Passenger only if such flight provides an earlier arrival than the CO flight offered in 3) a) above.
  • 4) Compensation for Passengers Denied Boarding Involuntarily
  • For passengers traveling between points within the United States, subject to the exceptions in section c) below, CO shall pay compensation to Passengers denied boarding involuntarily from an Oversold Flight at the rate of 200% of the fare to the Passenger’s first Stopover or, if none, Destination, with a maximum of USD 650 if CO offers Alternate Transportation that, at the time the arrangement is made, is planned to arrive at the Passenger’s Destination or first Stopover more than one hour but less than two hours after the planned arrival time of the Passenger’s original flight; and if CO offers Alternate Transportation that, at the time the arrangement is made, is planned to arrive at the Passenger’s Destination or first Stopover more than two hours after the planned arrival time of the Passenger’s original flight, CO shall pay compensation to Passengers denied boarding involuntarily from an Oversold Flight at the rate of 400% of the fare to the Passenger’s first Stopover or, if none, Destination with a maximum of USD 1300.

 

SCOUT’S BOTTOM LINE:

  • Arrive at the airport early. Most domestic flights suggest that you check in 30 minutes prior to boarding. Our suggestion, plan on a minimum of one hour. You can always browse the duty-free shops to kill time. Most airports today are modern with many amenities to help you pass the time.
  • When booking your flight take the time to enroll in your airline’s frequent flyer program even if you don’t think you will ever fly with them again. Having the FF # often will get you a discount  at the car rental and , from what we’ve  found here, provide another layer of protection if a flight is over booked.
  • Over booking happens most often on Monday and Friday flights. Although all flights are routinely over sold, the odds of an overbooking situation develop more often before and after weekends when travelers need to get to a destination in a hurry or return home for work in a hurry.
  • Over booking often becomes a problem around Holidays, especially the major holidays of Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years.

Well, That’s about it for another of Scout’s Tips. That was a great question and we’re really sorry this happened to you especially where you are not seasoned travelers. Getting bumped, missed connections and other travel mishaps do happen no matter how hard you try to avoid them but when it’s your dream vacation and you aren’t used to it, it can really put a damper on your travel.

Scout hopes the rest of your vacation is relaxed and worry free and that you enjoy the gorgeous state of Alaska!

D.W. Field Park

D. W. Field Park is located in the middle of the city of Brockton, Ma. I have heard of the park but I hadn’t been there before today.

I dropped Smokey off at the vet first thing this morning and wanted to stay close to home incase they called so I gave my friend Nancy a ring to see what she was  up to for the afternoon. I was thinking of going over to the Fuller Craft Museum where there is a pond on the grounds.  I thought I might be able to get some pictures there.

Nancy lives in Brockton so through the wonder of miscommunication she thought I wanted to go to the D. W. Field Park that surrounds the Fuller Craft Museum. Sometimes things have a way of working out just right!

I picked up Nancy and her 5-year-old  daughter Dawn and we headed over to the museum. I missed the turn into the Museum parking lot but Nancy assured me we could get in at the next left.

 I found myself pulling through an iron gate set in a stone fence. A paved road led us on into the park. As we drove Nancy pointed out picnic tables and pull offs for parking.

The park itself is over 700 acres of woodland and ponds that support a wide variety of native wildlife. There are over 7 miles of paved roads that wind through the park along with paths and trails for walking and hiking.

As we drove along we spotted a pull off across from one of the ponds. There were benches and loads of ducks, geese and swans. There were even some pigeons. I’d never seen a  brown/red pigeon before but there was one in this flock.

Dawn found some fuzzy caterpillars and seemed more interested in the bugs than the birds although she did feed a whole loaf of bread to the riotous avians and watched the feeding frenzy that followed.

We walked a little way along the pond until we came to a man-made waterfall that is the out source for the pond.

It’s a really beautiful area. It’s hard to believe you’re in the heart of a city. Once the leaves really start to change color this is going to be worth a return visit!

We wrapped up our afternoon with a visit to Asack’s Turkey Farm where they have 24 flavors of soft ice cream. We had the ice cream first then considering the time picked up Turkey pockets for dinner..yummm! The Turkey pockets have turkey breast, stuffing and cranberry sauce. The pockets are really stuffed full. They don’t skimp on the turkey, an excellent value.

Our bounty in hand I dropped Nancy and Dawn back at their home. Young Alex, Nancy’s 7 year old son, had just come home from school so I said my good byes and headed on to my other errands.

What a nice afternoon break!

Scout’s Tips~ Passenger’s Bill of Rights

Scout

With all of the things that have been going on in Dusty’s life from sick cats to photo contests and overtime at her work on top of that, Scout thought it would be a good time for one of his columns to give Dusty a tiny break.

The nice thing is that travel has been in the news lately. I don’t mean the travel alert to watch out for terrorists or the Aruba murders. I’m referring to the Airline traveler’s Bill of Rights.

This little bit of regulation came to be because of the severe abuses that airlines have reaped on their customers over the past 10 plus years or so. It all seemed to start back in 1999 when Northwest Airlines stranded a plane full of passengers on the tarmac for 8 horrible hours without food , water or working toilets.  It’s like being trapped in a cramped tin can. If we treated animals that way the ASPCA or maybe even PETA would be knocking down doors to bring charges of animal cruelty.

The worst part was that this wasn’t an isolated incident. It happened again in December 2006 but it was American Airlines this time.  Not to be out done Jet Blue held up 10 flights in February of 2007.

Still the worst situation involved a diabetic passenger who ran into significant blood sugar issues while trapped on a stranded plane with no food. When the flight attendants finally realized that the passenger was in extreme danger they relented and supplied a “snack” tray but charged the passenger $4.00.

At some point a group of passengers sued the airlines for false imprisonment and a media storm ensued. The Airlines set up their own “voluntary  bill of rights” but with no enforcement teeth, things soon returned to business as usual for the airlines. Escalating fees and ticket prices added to the general arrogance of the airline industry pushed the traveling public to revolt. Finally the government stepped in.

The result: A series of pro-passenger Department of Transportation airline regulations with real enforcement tools. The goal is to decrease the number and length of tarmac delays, clearly explain/define tickets costs and extra fees and decrease the number of fliers being bumped for overbooked flights.

Under these new regulations if a boarded commercial plane sits on the tarmac for more than 4 hours, the airline will be charged up to $27,500 per passenger. ( Currently this only applies to international flights.)

Airlines will now have to display or post in a prominent position all bag, meal, cancellation and any other formerly hidden fees on their websites. They will have to compensate bumped passengers at least double the price of their ticket (provided the ticket is less than $650.00)

In January passengers will be allowed to change their reservations within 24 hours  of booking without having to pay a penalty fee.

And of course, baggage fees. With the new rules airlines will have to refund the baggage fees if they lose your luggage. Duh! Isn’t that just common sense? One caveat… if the luggage is only delayed this does not apply but if truly lost  at least you will not have paid the airlines  for the privilege of having them lose your luggage.

These rights are not due to law but are Department of Transportation regulations. Still for an industry that is notorious for poor customer service it is a step in the right direction. . It’s too bad doing the right thing doesn’t come naturally when it come to flying the not so friendly skys.

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Remember the Cog Railway Photo Contest?

I am so excited!

If you recall I sent in the #1 photo from my little poll. When I didn’t get any acknowledgement I called to see if they had received the picture. In my conversation I found out that I could submit more than one picture. So of course I had to send in some more. I decided to send in 3 to test the waters and if I didn’t have any luck try the next 3.

I kept checking the web site and they never posted anything new from anyone, not just me. The same pictures from when I first looked into this contest were the only ones on the web page.

Anyway, I got busy and forgot to check for a couple of weeks. Tonight I was just killing some time and I thought , gee I haven’t been to the Cog railway web site lately and to my surprise and absolute delight there were my pictures! Not just one, but all 3!

Here’s the link. Please check it out! www.thecog.com

That takes you to the home page. On the right side of the page under Cog Events is the link to the photo contest. Click on that link and it takes you to the rules and on the right side is a photo of the Mount Washington Hotel. Under that photo is the link to the 2011 entries.

I tried to post a direct link but it didn’t work. So you’ll have to follow the steps to get there.

I read the rules again and all it says it that the winner will be chosen at the end of the season. I’m not sure but it sounds like the contest goes to the end of the year. In any case I guess we wait again. But I am thrilled that they even posted the pictures. I hope that means that I am in the running.

I wonder if I should send the rest? I’ll have to think about that. 🙂

Seals and more beach, Chatham Ma

We had a great lunch on the patio at the Kreme and Cone in Chatham, MA. Over fish and clams, shrimp and  onion rings we planned the afternoon. It was going on 2:30 pm by then anyway. The kids wanted to go to the Zooquarium in Yarmouth but they also wanted to see the seals. Since we were right there in Chatham we adults made an executive decision to go to the Fish Pier and see the seals.

We had great timing because the fishing boats were coming in with their catch. When we first got there a boat was off-loading lobster. Another boat had dogfish. Alex loved watching the unloading process.

The seagulls were swooping and there were 3- 4 seals that kept diving and swimming around the boats.

The nice thing about the Fish Pier is that a 2nd floor wrap around deck with a railing gives spectators an awesome place to watch the whole process. There’s a takeout seafood restaurant and a couple of picnic tables too as well as a decent restroom. Parking is a challenge. The parking lot is very tiny and always packed. Once you park you walk down to the pier.

The activity here held the kids attention much longer than I expected and we had a great time. When it was time to leave the kids made one last request. They wanted to walk the beach to look for shells. So it was back to the car for their buckets and flip-flops so they could wade in the water.

It was really neat. The little beach combers were very cute. A couple of the seals came around the dock and played in the water just off shore. This is the inner harbor and there hasn’t been any problem with sharks this far into the harbor but even so Nancy & I went on high alert to keep an eye out. Better safe than sorry.

We wrapped up the day by stopping for soft ice cream at the Seafood Shanty in Bourne. While we were eating our ice cream at the Herring Run recreation area across the road a huge barge passed us and traveled under the Sagamore bridge. It was just nearing sundown and it was easy to see why these are considered the golden hours for taking pictures.

The Sagamore bridge seemed to glow a burnished gold. It was the frosting on the cake. I had a great day and I think the kids had fun too. Next time we’ll have to get to the Zooquarium.

 

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